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    <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:36:58 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Mistral 404 (Comment or Suggestion) (Sails and Furlers)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,379725,473375#msg-473375</link>
      <author>paul c</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Can you please send your rigging photos to my email?  pcunni61@yahoo.com

Everyone in the forum seems a bit confused but no one has really posted any help(?).

Thanks,
Paul from Maine (looking at this hot little boat sitting here in Nova Scotia and wanting to sail it!)]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Islands 17 (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,1975,472583#msg-472583</link>
      <author>Ted Rissell</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I have an Island 17 with sails, rudder, trailer with new tires and a title for boat and trailer.  Also a boat cover. Price $900. phone 301-387-6463. The boat is located at Deep Creek lake in western Maryland. ted.rissell2@gmail.com]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:31:21 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Islands 17  - For Sale in Westport NY (Lake Champlain) (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
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      <author>Jim Carlisle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I have been the happy owner of an Islands 17 for nine years. Built in '77, it has the original sails in great condition, but with new lines.  i rebuilt the rudder, which now tilts and stays up when on a mooring. I added a 42&quot; long mahogany tiller with an extension.  The trailer is somewhat rusted, but tilts for launch in shallow water.  I also replaced the spreaders and some of the rigging.

i have specs for the Tanzer 18, which is very similar, from which I designed and manufactured the new rudder.

I have decided to sell the boat. It is in Westport, NY on Lake Champlain. I would like to get $1000 for the boat, OBO.  You can email me or call 817-812-2957.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:16:07 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Mistral 404 (Comment or Suggestion)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,379725,471777#msg-471777</link>
      <author>Sean Rowan</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Have owned this boat since 1974,,,, not sailing it this year as I have upgraded to a DS20. It is a great little boat and a lot of fun to sail.

You should have a cleat for the main... on my boat it is attached to the traveller, on yours it should be attached to the centreboard housing.

Mine is set up with two sets of cleats and line guides on the gunales for the jib, one set for solo, a second set when with crew. 

Mine is trapezed rigged as well.

I don't have her rigged this year, but I can send you pictures if you like of what is what if that helps.

Happy sailing!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:01:12 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Mistral 404 (Comment or Suggestion)</title>
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      <author>infotechproximity8</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I have a double block for the boom and another one for the cockpit block attached to the centerboard housing, but no cleat or jam that I can discern. Also on the gunale I have what appears to be a cleat for the jib sheet but just forward is a strange through
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[url=http://www.stow-group.com/EN/products/palletised-goods/conventional-pallet-racking-2511.aspx] Pallet Racking[/url] | [url=http://www.shoe-envy.co.uk/Fitflop_Boots]Fitflop  Boots[/url]]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:54:52 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: JOUET 17 (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,402309,471507#msg-471507</link>
      <author>Henrik Schønau Fog</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello Roland,

Did you find a solution?

I replaced the keel on my foxtrot 17 some years back (stainless steel), and I still have a paper drawing of it, which I could could copy and send to you.

best,
Henrik Schønau Fog, Denmark]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:19:18 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: DS22 sailboat owners manual &amp; other questions</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,349833,471483#msg-471483</link>
      <author>Peteris</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello...recently purchased an '85 DS22.  Have started sailing it and at launch had a lot of trouble getting the drop-keel to drop.  Finally accomplished it with the use of force and determination. I can sympathize with all previous comments and will at crane-out time this fall clean out that slot.  Does anyone have any suggestions about rigging - specifically the positioning of jib-sheets as they seem to always get tangled on the cleats of the mast and/or stays.  Thanks, Peteris.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:10:51 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: DS 22 owners? (Opinion about this sail boat?) (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,1033,471436#msg-471436</link>
      <author>Dan</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I just bought a Vision 660.  If anyone has any manuals, tips and what not, I would be most grateful!

Dan]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:59:59 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Best classified site for boats Canada wide (À propos des Annonces Nautiques)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,470817,471178#msg-471178</link>
      <author>Allan</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Boat for sale is a good traffic publication in Ontario. GAM magazine is another good one. For listings in the Maritimes Yachtworld is popular but your boat has to be listed with a broker for that site. Best of luck with your sale.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 06:22:40 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Best classified site for boats Canada wide (À propos des Annonces Nautiques)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,470817,470817#msg-470817</link>
      <author>Luc (Alice)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi sailors,

My boat is already advertised on the known best sites in QC.

I'm looking for an equivalent for reaching potential buyers in the Great Lakes and maritimes regions.

Googling, I came up with the list of sites below. Used anyone of those as a buyer or seller ? Which one did you use or would use if you're looking for a sailboat ?

Or should I break down, hire a broker to be listed on Yachtworld ?

TIA

Luc
__

http://www.boatquest.ca/ --&gt; looks like the best (price, traffic, ??)

http://www.boatdealers.ca/

http://www.used-boats-canada.ca/

http://www.boatbuys.ca/

http://www.canadaboatshopper.com/

http://www.boatforsale.net/

http://www.boatcan.com/]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:29:18 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Islands 17 (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
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      <author>Robert Brower</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello to all.  Glad to find a contact for other Islands 17 owners.  I have had a 1976 yellow model since 1979, and sailed it with my family on the Great South Bay of Long Island NY. My understanding from a local marine supplier is that Ocean Yachts produced these in a facility on the Patchogue River in Patchogue LI, NY  I have been successful in replacing any worn hardware with Hobbie products.  According to the former marine supplier in Bellport NY, the original standing rigging used, was standard Hobbie products.

I now have a Rhodes 22, and still sail the Great South Bay, so I am planning to place my Islands 17 on eBay.  I would be glad to hear from any of you.

Bob]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:23:21 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Mistral 404 (Comment or Suggestion)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,379725,470690#msg-470690</link>
      <author>Michel Kouri</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I have 2 mistral 404 sailboats One is complete enough to sail Had it out on the water once and had to hurry back in since the Elvstrom bailer was leaking real back Parts inventory is 2 hulls in fair condition 3 masts(some trapeze cables and clamps on one) 3 booms 3 center boards 3 rudders 2 jibs( seen better days) one main sail(definitly seen better days but still usable for pleasure sailing)and available if required one trailer Looking to sell the whole lot preferably as a package but will sell items one by one if need be Located in Ottawa ON]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 22:31:38 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: OMC Saildrive  (Boat maintenance)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,1478,470616#msg-470616</link>
      <author>Yves JULIEN</author>
      <description><![CDATA[michael mcgrorey Wrote:
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&gt; ok problem solved. The shaft sels necessary for
&gt; the triangular flange are OMC part #398051 and you
&gt; need 2 of them! anyone still read this thread?


Well I do and so are other I think since the number increases beside your responses indicating activities... !

Yves]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 10:36:37 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Independent 20 (Opinion about this sail boat?) (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,1146,469732#msg-469732</link>
      <author>Archie Smith</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Does anyone know the weight of an Indepenent 20?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:17:41 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Mirage 39 (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,1589,469356#msg-469356</link>
      <author>Bruce</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Steffen

I am interested is a Mirage 39 which is for sale.  I used to own a C&amp;C 40.  I'd be interested in youropinion on how the two boats compare - quality of construction and sailing ability?  Do you have ay opinion that night asist me?

thanks

bruce]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:00:19 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Volvo MB2 and OMC Saildrive Replacement Engine (Comment or Suggestion)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,348634,469233#msg-469233</link>
      <author>johndoe</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi,

Yes I have one. It has been rebuild last year and I was keeping it in case my original one would die but I have another spare one. I might be interested in selling it. Write me in privite as to know where you are from.

Cheers

John]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:29:31 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: OMC Saildrive  (Boat maintenance)</title>
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      <author>michael mcgrorey</author>
      <description><![CDATA[ok problem solved. The shaft sels necessary for the triangular flange are OMC part #398051 and you need 2 of them! anyone still read this thread?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:43:55 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: SUMNER ISLANDS 19 (Opinion about this sail boat?) (Comment or Suggestion)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,1063,469090#msg-469090</link>
      <author>Ralph V Harvey</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I am restoring a Sumner Islands 17 and have a page on this boat on my website www.rvharvey.com/boatstuff.htm

Ralph Harvey]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 14:10:13 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Looking for a dinghy instructor...</title>
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      <author>qwerty</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Daniel L. Wrote:
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&gt; Hello,
&gt; 
&gt; I'm reading a CYA manual and can't figure out what
&gt; they mean.  :confused: Anyone knows what &quot;hull
&gt; curving using the banana effect&quot; means?
&gt; 
&gt; «Body steering puts the tiller hand against the
&gt; life jacket and
&gt; forces the sailor to move his body outwards to
&gt; bear off and inwards to head up.
&gt; This has three effects. It forces a microphone
&gt; grip, makes erratic over steering
&gt; difficult, and is a precursor to hull curving
&gt; using the banana effect.»
&gt; 
&gt; Thanks in advance!
&gt; 
&gt; ;-)

centerline in any direction during quenching (banana effect).]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:17:07 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: OMC Saildrive  (Boat maintenance)</title>
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      <author>Michael McGrorey</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Ok, I'm not so sure about the shaft seal replacement. Having once again had the water in the lower cylinder problem (although last year the replacement of the adapter plate gasket solved the problem) I have decided to replace the shaft seals. After removing the triangular flange I see there are two seals inside. Based on Desksailings advise I ordered only one seal but now think thats a mistake. The two seals needed according to the service manual are 321504 and the seal 319664. The seal desk sailing refers to 319664 he correctly says has been replaced by part number 398051. The new seal has an improved design (according to product literature) with a teflon insert in the lower lip to prevent leakage. It also says that the lip be installed with seal installer 333520. The use of seal installer 321515 will position the seal too deep in the seal retainer and the seal lips will not contact the seal area. How critical are the use of the seal installer tools really?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 13:50:29 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: SUMNER ISLANDS 19 (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
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      <author>Bill Taggart</author>
      <description><![CDATA[By the way, there is another thread on the Islands 17 at http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,1975,page=1

I posted this information at that thread, and figure it can't hurt to have it here also:

I did a bunch of Googling, and for those of you (like me) who need to make a new rudder, here is what you need: 

http://www.clal.ca/tanzer16/ttopics/tsheet1a.jpg

http://www.clal.ca/tanzer16/ttopics/tsheet2a.jpg

What you will find there is a PDF file of a large technical drawing of a Tanzer 16. The Islands 17 apparently was a very close copy of the Tanzer 16, and from what I have found, the rudder designs are identical. 

I also found an Islands 17 owner on the web, and he was kind enough to send me photos of his original rudder, with a tape measure next to it, from which I was able to see that it is indeed just like the rudder on the Tanzer 16. The Islands 17 rudder might be just a couple inches longer to the bottom point, but that's about it. 

The rudder is 3/16&quot; aluminum sandwiched between marine plywood. 

The Tanzer 16 site, which also has a little info about the Islands 17, is http://www.clal.ca/tanzer16/ttopics/. You'll find that much of what he says about the Tanzer 16 applies equally to the Islands 17. 

This also will be helpful to you: 

http://www.rvharvey.com/images-boats/sumnerislands17.pdf

That is a PDF of the original Islands 17 &quot;owner's manual,&quot; such as it is. It does describe how to set up the rigging, and gives some specs on the boat, but it's short on lots of detail. 

I'm planning on putting together a website with all the information I can find about the Islands 17, because I have yet to find one. So I figure I might as well put one together.  When I finally get it together, I'll post a link.

- Bill Taggart
- Richmond, VA, USA]]></description>
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      <title>Re: SUMNER ISLANDS 19 (Opinion about this sail boat?) (Various - Pot-Pourri)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,1063,468502#msg-468502</link>
      <author>Bill Taggart</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I have seen Islands 17's come up on various Craig's lists from time to time.  That's how I acquired mine just a few weeks ago.  

Do some Googling and look at boat listings on Craig's lists.  For searching across many Craig's lists at once, check out SearchTempest. 

- Bill T.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:03:43 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Volvo MB2 and OMC Saildrive Replacement Engine (Comment or Suggestion)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,348634,468363#msg-468363</link>
      <author>Gordon Washburn</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Do you still have a mb2/50 for sale]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:02:38 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: SUMNER ISLANDS 19 (Opinion about this sail boat?) (Various - Pot-Pourri)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,1063,468137#msg-468137</link>
      <author>Penn</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Justen,

I had an Island 12 for many years then it was stolen.  It broke my heart. Never did recover it ... the boat that is.  I stumbled onto your message while searching for your family boatworks. It was my hope that I could get another Island ... 15 or 19.  But you say all the molds are destroyed.  Any chance you know where I could locate one of these boats?  

If you are up for it, please revive Sumner boat works.  You all made such wonderful boats.

Hope to hear from you.  Fair winds and clear skies. )))]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:38:36 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: JOUET 17 (Opinion about this sail boat?) (Comment or Suggestion)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,402309,467742#msg-467742</link>
      <author>Lex Eichelsheim</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello, Roland Pauw. Heb op dit moment kiel onder boot vandaan kan deze voor je op papier overtrekken. Jouet Foxtrot 17

Laat me even weten of je nog belangstelling heb en je adres.

Lex]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 14:23:19 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Bombardier 7.6 (26') (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,560,467366#msg-467366</link>
      <author>Paul Phaneuf</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I have a Bomd 7.6 built in 1983, in very good condition. I am planning on selling it this season, and I would like some advice on price. I purchased a hydraulic motor mount last season for $1000 should include it or change it back to previous mount.
Thx Paul Phaneuf
St Lazare Quebec]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 09:12:35 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Islands 17 (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
      <link>http://forums.voileabordable.com/read.php?2,1975,467179#msg-467179</link>
      <author>Bill T.</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hey folks - 

I have just acquired a bright yellow 1979 Islands 17.  

I did a bunch of Googling, and for those of you (like me) who need to make a new rudder, here is what you need:

http://www.clal.ca/tanzer16/ttopics/tsheet1a.jpg

http://www.clal.ca/tanzer16/ttopics/tsheet2a.jpg

What you will find there is a PDF file of a large technical drawing of a Tanzer 16.  The Islands 17 apparently was a very close copy of the Tanzer 16, and from what I have found, the rudder designs are identical.

I also found an Islands 17 owner on the web, and he was kind enough to send me photos of his original rudder, with a tape measure next to it, from which I was able to see that it is indeed just like the rudder on the Tanzer 16.  The Islands 17 rudder might be just a couple inches longer to the bottom point, but that's about it.

The rudder is 3/16&quot; aluminum sandwiched between marine plywood.     

The Tanzer 16 site, which also has a little info about the Islands 17, is http://www.clal.ca/tanzer16/ttopics/.  You'll find that much of what he says about the Tanzer 16 applies equally to the Islands 17. 

This also will be helpful to you: 

http://www.rvharvey.com/images-boats/sumnerislands17.pdf

That is a PDF of the original Islands 17 &quot;owner's manual,&quot; such as it is.  It does describe how to set up the rigging, and gives some specs on the boat, but it's short on lots of detail.  

I'm planning on putting together a website with all the information I can find about the Islands 17, because I have yet to find one.  So I figure I might as well put one together.]]></description>
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      <title>Re: 1981 Sonic 23 (v-berth/deck access hatch) (Boat maintenance)</title>
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      <author>Roland Outhan</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Jared, I just found this website on the Sonic 23. Contact this guy, he might be helful to you, you never know!

    http://sonic23.blogspot.com/]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 05:50:45 -0400</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Sonic sailboat (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
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      <author>Jared</author>
      <description><![CDATA[where would you go if you needed a replacement deck hatch for a sonic 23?



JD Wrote:
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&gt; Date: 17 Apr 2001
&gt; Time: 16:47:58
&gt; Remote Name: 208.241.25.130
&gt; 
&gt; Sonic 23 is a canadian sailboat. It is no longer
&gt; in
&gt; production. Used to be built by Bermarine in
&gt; Montreal. Like several boat manufacturers in
&gt; Canada this company went belly up
&gt; in the mid 80's as the market for sailboats
&gt; plummeted. I own personally such a boat, don't
&gt; exactly what you want to know but
&gt; am in a position to give you a lot of info over
&gt; e-mail. Could also mail you the selling brochure,
&gt; should you supply me with your
&gt; adress. 
&gt; 
&gt;]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Mirage 35 ( ) (Opinion about this sail boat?)</title>
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      <author>Mirage 275</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thank you Mr. Stefen for the info.
Actualy this is my second Mirage.
I've bought a Mirage 26 from Mr. Gariepy from champlain Lake who told me
he was the owner of one of the transport company that were delivering the new Mirage when they were in production.

It must feel good to see so much interest over Mirage boat 20 years after.

Thank you kindly!

Guy. proud owner of Mirage boats]]></description>
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